[debian-devel:12950] debian-installer for woody (Re: the next step)

[Taketoshi Sano <kgh12351@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

佐野＠浜松です。

 -boot list から回覧。Joey Hess による debian-installer (woody) の
今後の作業方針。

あいかわらず base tar ball を使うみたいですね。
kernel package は initrd を使うようになるとかいう話が
あったような気がするけど、どうなったんだろう ?

 library reduction はもうやめたほうがいいんじゃないかなぁ。

 lilo は捨てて grub にするんじゃなかったっけ ?

 language chooser はどうなるんだろう ?

とまあ、いろいろ課題ありそうですね。

  # Dice installer はどこにいったんだろう。

In <20000928183600.A10551@xxxxxxxxxxx>,  on "Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:36:00 -0700',
   with "the next step", Joey Hess <joey@xxxxxxxxxxx> さん wrote:

> I feel that the design discussions have reached the point where we'll be
> more productive if we're talking about actual code. There are still many
> decisions to be made, but most of them are on the level of how an
> individual module should work, and we don't have to firm up all those
> details yet. So I'd like to lay out a plan for the next couple of months.
> 
> I want to accomplish several things: focus effort on producing a
> working proof of concept system that can install onto a limited range of
> hardware in a limited set of situations, lay the groundwork for everything
> else, and produce something fairly cool to start with so more people will
> become interested in working on the project.
> 
> So how about this as the first cut at the new Debian installer: 
> A one or two floppy system, that gets networking going and downloads and
> installs Debian from the net, using http. Hardware support limited at first
> to i386, IDE hard drives, and the same set of network cards supported by the
> compact boot floppies in potato. The user interface will be limited to one
> type, probably a console text UI that is either sorta like dbootstrap, or
> like debconf's text frontend.
> 
> I picked this configuration because:
> * It's easy to develop for -- it's easy to write a floppy and boot it,
>   easing the test cycle.
> * The hardware is pretty common so a lot of people will be able to
>   participate.
> * It's pretty cool, especially if we fit it on one floppy.
> 
> (Once we get this written, we will be able to start plugging in other
> modules -- other retrievers like ftp, other UI's, more hardware support,
> and so on, until we get something with the same set of capabilities as
> the boot floppies.)
> 
> My target for a working first cut at the installer supporting the above
> configuration is 2 months from now, at the start of December. That's a 
> pretty close date. Here are the main pieces that are required:
> 
> * mini dpkg (mostly done)
> * base tarball creator (don't have to write, we can just use
>   boot-floppies to make base tarballs for the first cut)
> * mini debconf (with 1 frontend and a basic database)
> * main menu generation code
> * http retriever
> * kernel build (with modules)
> * NIC autodetection (limited)
> * network configuration (manual method)
> * disk partitioning and formatting
> * base tarball installer
> * lilo setup
> * library reduction
> * bootable image build system (take all necessary pieces and make a
>   bootable floppy image)
> 
> The interesting thing is, most of these tasks can be worked on 
> independently. The main menu generation code, network configuration,
> lilo setup, and disk partitioning may all need debconf, but they can be
> initially written and tested on a full debian system using the perl
> debconf, before the mini debconf is written. The http retriever needs a
> network, but it can be tested on a full debian system before the other
> networking stuff is available. The network configuration code can
> be written before/concurrently with the NIC autodetection. The disk 
> partition and formatting (with care) on a spare drive. And so on.
> 
> So we can have a lot of teams (or just individuals) working on different
> parts at the same time. That's what I'd like to do in the next month.
> Then in November, we can work on the pieces like actually building the
> floppy image, and library reduction, that depend on other things
> existing first.
> 
> If we're agreed that this is a decent plan and that the target
> installation system and method for the first cut are reasonable, we can
> get started. I'm ready to write some code and I'd like to work on the
> main menu generation module (I can do it on my own in a week, I think),
> provide assistance with the mini debconf (but not write most of it; once
> was enough), and help with the network configuration, and the lilo setup.
> Let me know what you can work on so I can tell if this 2 month timeline is
> wildly optimistic.
> 
> -- 
> see shy jo


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