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Re: DWN 2000-10-3



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In <87snpbulrt.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
  on "Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:53:59 +0900',
   with "Re: DWN 2000-10-3",
 Yuhji KOYAMA <koyama@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ã•ã‚“ wrote:

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> .|flagged important. Anthony wondered if changing the definition of important
> .|bugs could help with this problem. The ensuing discussion revealed some

>  Anthony ã¯ã€é‡è¦ãªãƒã‚°ã®å®šç¾©ã‚’変更ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã§
> ã“ã®å•é¡Œã‚’解決ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒã§ãã‚‹ã‹ã©ã†ã‹ç–‘å•ã«æ€ã„ã¾ã—ãŸã€‚

 wonder ã¯ã€Œç–‘å•ã«æ€ã†ã€ã¨ã„ã†ã‚ˆã‚Šã‚‚「(å¯èƒ½æ€§ã«ã¤ã„ã¦)考ãˆã‚‹ã€ã¨ã„ã†
æ„Ÿã˜ã§ã¯ãªã„ã‹ã¨ã€‚

wonder  {自動-2} : 〜ã‹ãªã¨æ€ã†â—†ã€ç”¨æ³•ã€‘自分ã®æ案を相手ãŒå—ã‘入れã¦ãれるã‹
ã©ã†ã‹è‡ªä¿¡ãŒãªã„ã¨ãã«ä½¿ã†ã€‚ / ã€ç”¨ä¾‹ãƒ»è‡ªå‹•-2】 I was wondering if you were free 
tomorrow. : 《誘ã†ã€‹æ˜Žæ—¥ã€æ™‚é–“ãŒã‚ã‚‹ã‹ãªã£ã¦æ€ã£ã¦ãŸã‚“ã ã‘ã©â€¦ã€‚ / I wonder if 
you'd like to go out with me this Sunday. : 《誘ã†ã€‹æ¬¡ã®æ—¥æ›œæ—¥ã¼ãã¨ã¤ãåˆã£ã¦
もらãˆãªã„ã‹ãªâ€¦ã€‚ / I was wondering.  Could I take my vacation next week? : 
《尋ã­ã‚‹ã€‹æ¥é€±ä¼‘ã¿ã‚’å–ã£ã¦ã‚‚よã‚ã—ã„ã§ã—ょã†ã‹ã€‚ / I was wondering.  Would you 
like to go to a movie with me tonight? : 《誘ã†ã€‹ä»Šå¤œã€æ˜ ç”»ã§ã‚‚見ã«è¡Œã‹ãªã„? / 
I was wondering if you'd like to join me for dinner tomorrow. 

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「「é‡è¦ãªãƒã‚°ã€ã®å®šç¾©ã‚’変更ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã§ã“ã®å•é¡Œã‚’ã‚‚ã£ã¨ã†ã¾ã
扱ãˆã‚‹ã‚ˆã†ã«ãªã‚‹ã‹ã‚‚ã—ã‚Œãªã„ã¨ã„ã†æ„見㌠Anthony ã‹ã‚‰æ案ã•ã‚Œã¾ã—ãŸã€

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> .|disquieting things. There is a growing perception among both users and 
> .|developers that normal severity bugs are often ignored, and an inflated
> .|severity is needed to ensure a bug gets attention. As Sean Perry

> é‡è¦åº¦ normal ã®ãƒã‚°ãŒãƒ¦ãƒ¼ã‚¶ã¨é–‹ç™ºè€…ã«é »ç¹ã«
> 無視ã•ã‚Œã‚‹å‚¾å‘ãŒå¤§ãããªã£ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚
> ãã—ã¦ã€ãƒã‚°ã«æ³¨æ„ã‚’å‘ã‘られるよã†ç¢ºå®Ÿã«ã™ã‚‹ãŸã‚ã«ã€
> é‡è¦åº¦ãŒã¤ã‚Šä¸Šã’られã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚

「é‡è¦åº¦ normal ã®ãƒã‚°ã¯å˜ã«ç„¡è¦–ã•ã‚Œã¦ã—ã¾ã†ã“ã¨ãŒå¤šãã€ãã†ãªã‚‰ãªã„
  (無視ã•ã‚Œãªã„) よã†ã«ã™ã‚‹ã«ã¯é‡è¦åº¦ã‚’ã¤ã‚Šã‚ã’ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒå¿…è¦ã ã€ã¨ã„ã†
  èªè­˜ãŒãƒ¦ãƒ¼ã‚¶ã¨é–‹ç™ºè€…ã®åŒæ–¹ã«åºƒã¾ã£ã¦ã„ã¾ã™ã€‚ã€

> .|put it</a>, "<i>short of lighting a fire under someone, some bugs
> .|are simply ignored.</i>" One way to combat this perception, be it true or

> 「<i>明るã•ãŒè¶³ã‚Šãªã‘ã‚Œã°ã€ãƒã‚°ã¯å˜ã«ç„¡è¦–ã•ã‚Œã‚‹ã ã‘ã </i>ã€

ã“ã‚Œã¯ä¸­é‡Žã•ã‚“ãŒæ›¸ã‹ã‚ŒãŸã‚ˆã†ã«ã€ã€Œèª°ã‹ã®è¶³å…ƒã«ç«ã‚’点ã‘ãªã‘ã‚Œã°ã€
ã˜ã‚ƒãªã„ã‹ãªã€‚

light a fire 
   ç«ã‚’燃やã™
light a fire in the stove 
   ストーブをãŸã
light a flame 
   ç«ã‚’焚付ã‘ã‚‹

> .|false, is to become more active in fixing as many bugs as possible. Anthony

> ã§ãã‚‹ã ã‘ãŸãã•ã‚“ã®ãƒã‚°ã‚’ã‚‚ã£ã¨æ´»ç™ºã«ä¿®æ­£ã™ã‚‹ã‚ˆã†ã«ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã§ã™ã€‚

「ã™ã‚‹ã‚ˆã†ã«ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã€ãŒæ—¥æœ¬èªžã¨ã—ã¦æ°—ã«ãªã‚‹ã®ã§

   「ã§ãã‚‹ã ã‘ãŸãã•ã‚“ã®ãƒã‚°ã‚’ã‚‚ã£ã¨æ´»ç™ºã«ä¿®æ­£ã™ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã§ã™ã€‚ã€

ã«ã—ã¾ã›ã‚“ã‹ ?


> .|bugsquash weekends</i>" and wondered if we could make it a release goal to 
> .|ship with only 8000 open bugs. Even users can help; it's now easy to 

> ãã—ã¦å½¼ã¯ã€ç§ãŸã¡ãŒã‚ãšã‹ 8000 個ã®ã‚ªãƒ¼ãƒ—ンã•ã‚ŒãŸãƒã‚°ã®ã‚ã‚‹ã¾ã¾
> リリース目標ã«å‘ã‹ã†ã“ã¨ãŒã§ãã‚‹ã®ã‹ç–‘å•ã«æ€ã„ã¾ã—ãŸã€‚

 make it <object> to do something 㧠"to do something" ã‚’ <object> ã«ã™ã‚‹
ã¨ã„ã†æ„味ã§ã¯ ?

ãã‚Œã«ã—ã¦ã‚‚原文㮠only 8000 open bugs ã¯ã¡ã‚‡ã£ã¨æ„味ãŒå–ã‚Šã«ãã„ãªã€‚

「ã“ã®ã¾ã¾ã§ã¯ãƒªãƒªãƒ¼ã‚¹ç›®æ¨™ã¨ã—ã¦ã‚ªãƒ¼ãƒ—ンã•ã‚ŒãŸãƒã‚°ã®æ•°ã‚’ 8000 以下ã«ã™ã‚‹
ã¨ã„ã†ã“ã¨ã•ãˆæˆ‘々ã«ã§ãã‚‹ã‹ã©ã†ã‹å¿ƒé…ã ã¨è€ƒãˆã¦ã„ã‚‹ã€

ã¨ã„ã†æ„Ÿã˜ãªã‚“ã§ã—ょã†ã‹ã€‚

> .|but not closed, and perhaps send the maintainer a gentle reminder to do
> .|something about the rest. The problems discussed in this thread can't be

> ãã—ã¦ã€ãŠãらãã€æ®‹ã£ã¦ã„ã‚‹ãƒã‚°ã«ã¤ã„ã¦ä½•ã‹ã—ã¦ãれるよã†
> メンテナã«è¦ªåˆ‡ãªç£ä¿ƒçŠ¶ã‚’é€ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã‚‚ã§ãã¾ã™ã€‚

ã“ã“ã§ã® gentle ã¯ã€Œä¸å¯§ãªã€ã¨ã‹ã€ŒãŠã ã‚„ã‹ãªã€ã¨ã‹ã®ã»ã†ãŒ
文脈ã«åˆã£ã¦ã„るよã†ãªã€‚

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